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https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-16-2161-2025
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Regional climate imprints of recent historical changes in anthropogenic Near Term Climate Forcers
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- Final revised paper (published on 05 Dec 2025)
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RC1: 'Review of “Regional climate imprints of recent historical changes in anthropogenic Near Term Climate Forcers”, by A. Santos-Espeso et al.', Anonymous Referee #1, 12 Jun 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alba Santos-Espeso, 30 Sep 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1286', Matthew Kasoar, 01 Aug 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Alba Santos-Espeso, 30 Sep 2025
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This paper examines the climate effects of Near Term Climate Forcers (NTCFs) using two climate model experiments from CMIP6-AerChemMIP, “historical” and “hist-piNTCF”, which include time-varying and fixed pre-industrial NTCF forcings, respectively. Focus is given to three main climate responses to NTCFs: 1) Arctic-amplified global cooling, 2) increased Labrador Sea convection, and 3) changes in tropical precipitation, including a southward displacement of the ITCZ.
Overall, the paper is clear and well written, and the methodology is sound. However, there are a few occasions throughout where statements are made that are unclear and/or are unsupported by the authors’ results. I discuss these in my specific comments below. Once these comments are addressed, I believe that the paper should be acceptable for publication.
Specific comments:
1) Lines 52-54: Since this paragraph is focused on the ocean, presumably you are talking about ocean meridional circulation and ocean heat transport here?
2) Line 87: Should this be “key metrics”, not “key magnitudes”?
3) Table A1 header row: First model should be BCC-ESM1, not BSC-ESM1.
4) Lines 191-193 and Fig. 1c,d,g,h: It might be interesting to quantify how much of the variance change between historical and hist-piNTCF is due to different multidecadal trends in these two experiments versus different interannual variability. The impact of different trends on the variance change could be quantified by comparing Fig. 1d,h (which presumably include the effects of trend differences) with the analogous figures computed using detrended time series. Generally speaking, the effects of anthropogenic aerosols (which tend to dominate the NTCF response) counteract the effects of greenhouse gases, contributing to smaller trends in historical compared to hist-piNTCF. This is consistent with the overall decrease in variance shown in Fig. 1d,h.
5) Fig. B2: Should probably say something in the figure caption about why you don’t show the siconc from the EC-Earth model.
6) Lines 224-225: I would change “sea ice-albedo feedback” to “sea ice-related feedbacks” here. The albedo feedback over the Arctic mainly operates in summer, but you’re showing autumn siconc here. In the autumn, it is mainly the sea ice-insulation feedback that is acting to amplify temperature changes.
7) Line 230: “our results suggest” appears twice.
8) Lines 232-233: It’s unclear what is meant here by “regional radiative changes”.
9) Line 236: Should be “formation”.
10) Fig. 4: Figure title indicates that the period of focus is 1980-2014, while the caption indicates 1950-2014.
11) Lines 245-246: First of all, should say Fig. 4d, not 4f. Secondly, is it certain that these episodes of collapsed convection are purely stochastic? Could there be a state (and thus forcing) dependence to them? If so, the results in Fig. 4d might not change much if you had more ensemble members. All this is to say that it might be good to soften the language a bit here, e.g., say that the response to NTCFs “may be” underestimated, rather than “is likely” underestimated.
12) Line 251: Could be worth noting here that this model only shows a decline after ~1980, at which point global aerosol concentrations had stabilized.
13) Fig. 6 caption: The variable name for salinity seems to have been entered incorrectly, i.e., (b, e) salinity (textitso).
14) Lines 262-263: Missing parenthesis, i.e., (as observed in Fig. 4).
15) Lines 265-269: This part seems too speculative to me. Can you present any evidence that this recirculation of saltier subsurface water is actually happening in the models? Or at least some citation from the literature supporting the existence of this positive feedback in the Labrador Sea?
16) Fig. B5 caption: Should be “temperature’s contribution to density (sigmaT)”.
17) Lines 270-275: I think that Fig. B5 is useful for understanding the contributions of temperature and salinity to the simulated density anomalies. However, I don’t agree with the authors’ interpretation of this figure. Specifically, it is stated that “temperature initially triggers surface density increases, which are subsequently reinforced by a salinity-driven feedback” (echoing a similar statement on lines 265-269). However, in October, temperature and salinity contribute about equally to the surface density anomalies. So, I don’t see how Fig. B5 can be used to argue that temperature anomalies are the initial trigger of the density anomalies, and that salinity anomalies are a subsequent feedback. I think this section (and lines 265-269, which make similar statements) needs to be reworded a bit.
18) Line 310: Should be “rsut”, not “rust”.
19) Fig. 9 and Fig. B6 captions: I’m a bit confused here about the distinction between MRI-ESM2-0 and the other models in terms of representing the effects of major volcanic eruptions. Even if the models other than MRI-ESM2-0 don’t include interactive stratospheric chemistry, they should still prescribe the volcanic aerosols in their historical simulations, correct? If so, why isn’t this reflected in od550aer? Do these models simply exclude the stratosphere in their calculation of od550aer? Or, is there some other explanation?
20) Lines 329-330: I would change this to “supports the hypothesis that aerosols, through some combination of direct effects and aerosol-cloud interactions, force…”, or something similar. You haven’t actually quantified the relative impacts of aerosol direct and indirect effects on the net radiation.
21) Lines 330-331: “Notably, the clt magnitude…” I don’t understand this sentence. clt is the total cloud fraction/amount – how does it capture changes in other cloud properties besides that? And how can it be used to detect aerosol-cloud interactions? I would explain more clearly what you mean here, or just remove this sentence.
22) Lines 335-339: I would remove this paragraph as it does not fit well within the rest of the discussion. First of all, you have not actually quantified aerosol-cloud interactions in your model simulations, so it’s unclear how your results relate to those of Zhao and Suzuki (2021). Secondly, all of the previous discussion/analysis attempting to link aerosols to the ITCZ shift focused on the aerosol effect on the top-of-atmosphere radiation. Now, in this paragraph, you start to talk about aerosol effects on surface evaporation and the hemispheric atmospheric energy contrast. Again, I think this paragraph just doesn’t fit well, adds confusion, and is unnecessary.
23) Lines 344-346: The Byrne et al. (2018) paper is a review paper that does discuss “not only changes in ITCZ location but also in its width and strength”, in multiple contexts (e.g., observations, future climate projections). The role of aerosols is discussed some, but mainly (as far as I can tell) in terms of aerosol effects on ITCZ latitude. Please explain more clearly how your finding here of a negative correlation between netR_HD and equatorial rainfall amount is “consistent with” the Byrne et al. (2018) study. Or just remove this sentence.
24) Lines 370-372: As discussed in previous comments, I don’t believe that your results support these statements. The 38% increase in convection refers to the Feb.-Mar.-Apr. (FMA) season. During FMA, surface density (and thus convection) anomalies are driven primarily by salinity anomalies, not temperature anomalies (Fig. B5). And you’ve provided no evidence as far as I can tell to support the existence of the salinity feedback that is proposed here.