Articles | Volume 16, issue 6
https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-16-2063-2025
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A saddle-node bifurcation may be causing the AMOC collapse in the Community Earth System Model
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- Final revised paper (published on 20 Nov 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-14', Anonymous Referee #1, 22 Jun 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', René van Westen, 31 Aug 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-14', Anonymous Referee #2, 06 Aug 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', René van Westen, 31 Aug 2025
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (31 Aug 2025) by Gabriele Messori
AR by René van Westen on behalf of the Authors (15 Sep 2025)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (17 Sep 2025) by Gabriele Messori
RR by Jonathan Rosser (28 Sep 2025)
RR by Anonymous Referee #1 (03 Oct 2025)
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (04 Oct 2025) by Gabriele Messori
AR by René van Westen on behalf of the Authors (08 Oct 2025)
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ED: Publish as is (23 Oct 2025) by Gabriele Messori
AR by René van Westen on behalf of the Authors (23 Oct 2025)
General Comments: This paper investigates the mechanisms behind Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) collapse in the Community Earth System Model (CESM). The paper aims to demonstrate that the classical picture of a saddle-node bifurcation, as exhibited by box models, also holds for the AMOC collapse in the CESM. This is done by analyzing pre-industrial CESM simulations and comparing them with a conceptual model (E-CCM). The authors use physical arguments to demonstrate that the complex behavior of AMOC in the CESM can be approximated by a reduced-order model, in which a saddle-node bifurcation drives the AMOC collapse.
These results underscore the utility of idealized AMOC models and may help evaluate the effect of model biases on the AMOC stability landscape and for understanding AMOC responses under various climate change projections. The careful experimental design and related analyses, for simulations in CESM and E-CCM, are commendable. I think the paper may be suitable for publication after the following issues are satisfactorily addressed.
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