Articles | Volume 16, issue 6
https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-16-2021-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
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On a simplified solution of climate-carbon dynamics in idealized flat10MIP simulations
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- Final revised paper (published on 18 Nov 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3270', Vivek Arora, 15 Aug 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Victor Brovkin, 24 Sep 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-3270', Anonymous Referee #2, 27 Aug 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Victor Brovkin, 24 Sep 2025
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (24 Sep 2025) by Nico Wunderling
AR by Victor Brovkin on behalf of the Authors (04 Oct 2025)
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ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (06 Oct 2025) by Nico Wunderling
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (09 Oct 2025) by Gabriele Messori (Chief editor)
AR by Victor Brovkin on behalf of the Authors (22 Oct 2025)
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This is a well-written and interesting manuscript presenting a novel analytical framework for analyzing coupled carbon–climate simulations. The approach is creative, the results are relevant, and the manuscript merits publication. I have provided several detailed comments in the annotated PDF, but here I summarize my major points:
1) I suggest using delta (Δ) notation for variables such as temperature and carbon pools in the ocean, land, and atmosphere. This would make it clear that the quantities represent changes from pre-industrial values.
2) In eqn (3) it becomes clear only later in the text why (k–1) is used instead of k. This reasoning can be explained upfront.
3) Equation (4) is certainly a crude approximation. I feel this needs to be acknowledged a bit more openly with a few references. For example, see Gillett (2023) (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-42111-x).
4) Consider revising the titles of Sections 2.1 and 2.2 to better reflect the distinction between the two. 2.1 uses linear approximation for F = f(Δ CO2) whereas 2.2 does not. Fortunately in the case of section 2.1 linearity leads to an analytical solution but linearity does not always guarantee an analytical solution.
I have made some suggestions in the PDF, but more descriptive titles could be chosen. Figure 4 panels (a) and (b) could be retitled similarly. In addition, an extra panel showing the actual airborne fraction from the flat10 simulations would help readers directly compare the analytical solutions to the model airborne fraction results.
5) The asymptotic airborne fraction of ~0.3 in Figure 4a contrasts with observation-based estimates of ~0.5. In Figure 4b, the model-mean airborne fraction appears to rise toward ~0.5 after about 100 years. Including actual model-simulated airborne fraction in a panel (c) could clarify how well the analytical approaches capture this. Also, is an airborne fraction ~0.5 is an emergent property of the real Earth system?
6) I can't help comparing Figure 4a, b show airborne fraction (AF) under continued emissions to Figure 5a of Torres Mendonça et al. (2024) (https://bg.copernicus.org/articles/21/1923/2024/) which shows the response to a pulse emission. I realize the distinction between continued and pulse emissions. Can this distinction be made explicit so that readers don't directly compare Figure 4a to figures similar to Figure 5a of Torres Mendonça et al. (2024).
7) In Section 2.1 (Equation 13), AF = 1 at t = 0, which makes sense for an instantaneous pulse but seems less realistic for continuous emissions. This should be clarified. Again including actual model AF in a new panel 4(c) would be helpful.
8) On p. 12 (lines ~185–200), processes that slow carbon uptake at higher CO₂ for land and ocean are discussed. However, the analytical model is unaware of these processes in Section 2.2. So how does AF actually increase in Figure 4b?
9) The discussion on page 13 (lines ~220 onward) is insightful but would be stronger if introduced earlier. Also, note that TCRE is constant in Section 2.1 (where F is linear function of atmospheric CO₂ change) but also in Section 2.2. It appears some loose ends need to be tied here.
Overall, this is an interesting manuscript and additional clarifications will allow readers to gain insight into the underlying properties which lead to emergent behaviour even in this simple framework.
I will be happy to read a revised version of this manuscript.