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Biogeochemical functioning of the Baltic Sea
Gregor Rehder
Eero Asmala
Alena Bartosova
Jacob Carstensen
Bo Gustafsson
Per O. J. Hall
Christoph Humborg
Tom Jilbert
Klaus Jürgens
H. E. Markus Meier
Bärbel Müller-Karulis
Michael Naumann
Jørgen E. Olesen
Oleg Savchuk
Andreas Schramm
Caroline P. Slomp
Mikhail Sofiev
Anna Sobek
Beata Szymczycha
Emma Undeman
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- Final revised paper (published on 31 Mar 2022)
- Preprint (discussion started on 09 Jun 2021)
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RC1: 'Comment on esd-2021-33', Donald Boesch, 14 Jul 2021
General Comments
This is an excellent assessment on the current state of biogeochemistry of the Baltic Sea. It is comprehensive, thorough, up-to-date, and effectively synthetic. The assessment considers past, present and future biogeochemical dynamics and how they are affected by human activities and the changing climate. It will be a standard, stock-taking reference for future research and science applications in the Baltic Sea, but will also be of significant interest outside of the region because of the diversity of environmental conditions and biogeochemical processes in the Baltic.
Specific Comments
I have no substantive criticisms of the sections summarizing and synthesizing the current state of knowledge. They are uniformly thorough and sound. The section of knowledge gaps and future research could be sharpened if it is meant to be useful beyond a wish list of scientists. This section is replete with characterizations of poorly quantified and uncertain, poorly understood, poorly characterized, great knowledge gaps, hot topics, significant gaps, correct estimate, not understood, and not sufficiently clear. But, do these unknowns and uncertainties matter equally, either in achieving robust understanding or for practical utility in sustainable development in the face of climate change. Some level of prioritization as to the most critical knowledge gaps and research opportunities to narrow them would be helpful
All scientists want more data and the next critical experiments and refined models, but what difference will these make. For example, i is not at all clear how better quantification of the nutrient loads and their geographical distribution and changes in the catchment can better quantify baseline conditions before 1970 (lines 1349-1353). Is a baseline even a relevant concept for characterizing good ecological status when, because of changing climatic and other conditions, it is no longer an achievable state?
Technical Corrections
Perhaps give a more complete name for BONUS such as BONUS: Science for a Better Future of the Baltic Sea Region (line 49).
It would be helpful, for context, to mention the other Grand Challenges that Baltic Earth is dealing with (line 60).
A reference is required here to support the statement about the decrease in nutrient loads and briefly some indication of the proportional amount of the decrease would be helpful. I realize this is discussed in more detail later, but the statement needs some support on first mention (lines 99-100).
Misplaced, open parenthesis (line 150).
The RCPs are pathways greenhouse gas concentrations and their radiative forcing, not global warming, per se. (line 158) The authors should make clear that the CMIP5 projections are those used in the IPCC AR5. Updated projections will be included in AR6 that will be released this year.
Clarify the sentence: “The results generally show a greater variation among climate models . . . for projections until the mid-21st century, but greater variation among RCPs towards the end of this century”. (lines 161-164)
Make clear that these projections are for air temperature. (lines 165-167)
Are the SSPs for climate derived from CMIP6 model ensembles? (lines 172-173)
Doesn’t all carbon enter the Baltic Sea in either inorganic or organic form? (line 221)
Is this TOC increase for the northern Baltic or an average for the entire Baltic? (line 228)
The caption for Figure 2 should explain the color coding in the histograms. (lines 344-345)
Clarify what is meant by “71% (89%) of the phytoplankton nitrogen and phosphorus uptake.” (line 520)
Misplaced, open parenthesis (line 728).
Do mid-80th and late 90th refer to the mid 1980s and late 1990s, respectively? (lines 1052 and 1054)
The three long sentences on lines 1059-1066 are confusing and should be more clearly stated.
Non-stoichiometric uptake may not be clear to the non-specialist reader. I suggest that this should be reworded more plainly. (line 1461)
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-2021-33-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Karol Kulinski, 30 Nov 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://esd.copernicus.org/preprints/esd-2021-33/esd-2021-33-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Karol Kulinski, 30 Nov 2021
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RC2: 'Comment on esd-2021-33', Anonymous Referee #2, 01 Sep 2021
Review of Baltic Earth Assessment Report on the biogeochemistry of the Baltic Sea
by K. Kulinsky et al.
The authors wrote a long report on the functioning and evolution of several major Baltic Sea biogeochemical cycles, in particular of water, nutrients (including primary production/eutrophication and oxygen), carbon (mainly focusing on inorganic carbon), and some pollutants. Also included is an overview of advances in research on microorganisms that are involved in and mediate some of the cycles. The author team aims to synthesise published knowledge in analogy to the IPCC reporting process, in line with past publications (BACC Reports 2008 and 2015) mandated by BALTEX and its successor, Baltic Earth, on climate and environmental change in this unusual and interesting shelf sea. The stated aim is to represent new knowledge that emerged since the last reports.
This iteration of the manuscript review process for a dedicated Special Issue of the journal Earth System Dynamics apparently follows a first review that asked for minor revisions. On that background, the manuscript is in a state that can be published. The effort is ambitious and most of the contents indeed provide some novel insights from observations and numerical modeling. The paper is well written, and although there are inconsistencies in structure and imbalances in thematic lines, there are no real corrections that need to be made.
The manuscript being new to me, on the other hand, some general and specific statements may be in order – perhaps as challenges for a future status report.
This is a consensus report and it is difficult to argue when many eminent researchers and co-authors agree on issues. What I missed is a representation of diverging opinions – what is the point of citing the IPCC process when their method of expressing consensus is not adopted? How certain are authors that changes can be attributed to specific drivers? This in particular is the case in the long sections on nutrients, eutrophication and oxygen deficiency, where according to my knowledge there are diverging opinions that in part may be caused by authors´ different working areas and processes pertinent there. Have rigorous attribution exercises been performed?
In many instances the Baltic Sea biogeochemical cycles are described in their basic functioning (which often are not different from other marine and coastal areas). The claim is to update information provided by previous BACC reports and syntheses, but that intended novelty is often swamped by general statements and descriptions in several of the chapters. For example, there is a substantial amount of text dedicated to nutrients and eutrophication effects, including oxygen deficiency – this offers little in terms of new data/ideas. In line with this impression is the enormous list of references, which for the most part have been published before the reporting period. The authors should have been more rigorous in presenting advances that emerged over the last years!
Although the structure of individual chapters (basic principles, past, present, what do models say about the future) makes sense, the outlook to future changes often is speculative (signaled by choice of words such as “would be, may be, possibly etc.”). How certain are you (see above)? Furthermore, the structure is not rigorously maintained throughout the paper. Some of these projections are based on models of varying complexity, but they apparently have not been rigorously evaluated against each other, although it appears that results of different models differ. Many of the outlooks thus are conjecture or reflect opinions.
The microbiology part is essentially a status report on the state of research on “omics”, which may be timely. The chapter on pollutants on the other hand does not offer any new information and treats “traditional” pollutants only, although there have been reports on some of the large spread of novel pollutants in the Baltic Sea.
The following are some further comments and suggestions keyed to line numbers:
64: Marine biogeochemistry ... deals with the transport. It is not really a new discipline.
65: ..particular C, N, P, Si....
68: delete On top of that,
69: with its periodicity?
79: wording and comparative: drained by many smaller rivers, is not that densely populated
103: comment: There appears to be controversy on the role of reactive nitrogen, which is not really addressed in the manuscript
111 ff: Further down you state that the present extent of anoxia is the maximum possible extent.
118 ff: comment: Here you state the objective of reporting progress since the last assessment. The following text is a general description of biogeochemical processes in the Baltic, which makes for a very long text.
137: This either is the case for any marine ecosystem, or needs to be extended to include pronounced internal cycling.
155 ff. This is a background on RCPs and some (regionalised) application (in terms of nutrient inputs) for the Baltic Sea and the likelyhood that targets of the Baltic Sea Action Plan will be attained under the assumptions made (from line 170). This should be put into the chapter dealing with probable and plausible nutrient inputs. The RCP´s are a way to prescribe model boundary conditions – I would have expected that the results of model projections thus forced would be treated in all subchapters on future developments.
185: playing - river flow or matter? This refers only to model projections – are there any observation?
194: How certain is this? Anything can potentially happen.
201: Is this observation-based? The preceding text is on models only, isn´t it?
210: What does however mean here?
213: This phrase is difficult to understand
222: Further down you say that 30% of sedimentary TOC is land-derived - does that match this statement? What is the nature of the positive feedback? Higher CO2 = more terrestrial TOC = more respiration in the Baltic?
231: What is the role of increasing pH here? pH of river water or of rain?
232: What does however mean here?
239: As stated before, the manuscript would benefit from a more stringent structure of a) observations and b) modeling scenarios
249: What does even mean here?
257: What I get from the entire paragraph is that climate and human effects are important, but that regional differences exist. Is this surprising or new?
283: lowering pace?
Paragraphs 2.1.5 and 2.1.7 both deal with inputs from the catchment – shouldn´t the be treated together (observations, past, likely future? And include atmospheric inputs as well?
345 ff: The entire chapter (2.2) on the coastal filter is very long and repetitive/redundant with other parts. It does not really serve the purpose of updating information published since the last assessment.
It would be helpful to define the extent and properties of the coastal filter, because in a sense the entire Baltic Sea is an estuary. Much of the data here relate to the northern Baltic Sea, whereas data for the southern coastal areas is not even mentioned (e.g., those raised in national and European projects).
356: This is doubtful: much more <N> is removed in southern coastal areas based on delta15N data! Phosphorus is effectively shuttled to depositional basins from these areas. See, for example, papers by Radtke et al. (modeling) and Voss et al. (N-isotopes).
377: This may the case in northern sub-systems with high humic matter input - it is not the case in southern river discharge areas.
386: This view appears to be very much skewed to northern Baltic.
436: The river plumes and open coasts in the southern Baltic experience significant changes in nutrient ratios from a significant N-surplus to N-deficit.
451: This entire paragraph is very speculative (may happen, can happen etc) - are there any constraints on coastal functioning in the warmer/more humid future from coupled models?
489: This paragraph draws on older data - are there no new data that are relevant for the reporting period since BACC II? As it is, this recaps already published information with limited novelty.
529: What causes the different transport patterns of N and P? Sounds like diffusion, which is unlikely?
545 ff: These are general statements/observations – what is their purpose here?
The data in Table 2 are really old – how can they be relevant to an assessment paper for the present situation?
591: One might mention somewhere that N2-fixation has been a consistent feature in the Baltic over the last 8000 years or so (papers by Bianchi, Struck) and that the so-called vicious cycle has been a natural phenomenon since the Baltic Sea developed into a brackish system.
612: What can possibly cause that lag of 20 years?
624: Decline in benthic production due to an increasingly anoxic Baltic Proper?
626: might decrease – anything might happen.....
638: How is that if P surplus is a main driver?
655: Lefébure (?) et al., 2013
658 ff: There is no mention of change - only general principles are described
676: deeper....weaker than what?
701: old reference, what is new?
705-712: These are contradictory statements?
710: How is that possible, when increased nutrient loads are responsible (2 paragraphs up)?
Does that mean that zooplankton respiration was increased in deep water after inflows, or that zooplankton necromass caused a respiration increase? I have a problem with the mass balance - how much zooplankton in terms of ratio to primary production and sinking flux is needed to make a difference?
717: What does that mean for the entire system? That GoF and northern areas function like a lake?
736: What does stagnant mean – no movement? Above you mention that small but frequent inflows supply more oxygen than MBIs?
747: stagnant?
776-780: Are these two statements not contradictory, because the lignin data are raised on sedimentary POC?
811: Do sulfate concentration indeed persist below the disappearance of methane?
864: Why should the rates in permeable sediments of the shallow Baltic Sea be different from rates in permeable sediments of the North Sea (e.g., Hüttl-papers; Neumann et al., 2021)? There high rates due to advective transports into ripples are considerably higher than those for diffusive transports in impermeable sediments. Can you suggest any reason?
877: What does that mean: Are there hidden depocenters in shallow parts of the Baltic? Hard to believe that they have gone unnoticed or are large enough to make a difference....
939: The following paragraph is a general introduction to the carbonate system - is this needed?
976: announcement - put in outlook!
987-988 lower...higher: compared to what?
Fig. 8 caption: Give full names in legend
999: Is this relevant information in the context of this review?
1032: Unit?
1033: Is this last sentence important?
1051: Due to enhanced CO2 assimilation?
1054: 1990´s
1062: atmospheric
1064: ...various pH-reducing drivers work in the same direction, with natural weathering potentially counteracting (what? pH decrease?)
1064: large
Caption figure 9: It would be interesting to state the water depths of measurements.
1084: non-Redfield
1087-1088: on instead of at
Paragraph 2.7.1.: unclear how this related to biogeochemistry? Most references are older than period under investigation.
1012: What role do they play in matter cycling?
1165 ff: references are quite old
1199: How does the recent review paper differ from this one?
Section 2.8 (pollutants): This entire section is vague and holds no pertinent information specific to the Baltic Sea. Metals and "old" organic contaminants are at the focus - wouldn´t it be appropriate to include data on novel pollutants (I believe such data are available)?
Section 2.8.1: This again is in large parts quite general and not specific for the Baltic Sea, neither is the focus on progress in recent years....
Part 3: There has been a lot of planning for future research on national and international levels in the past years - how are the points raised here integrated and interlinked?
1349: This has been the case for the last 20 years - how can this shortcoming be remedied above all the data mining and modeling that has already gone into this?
1355: This as well has been a theme of intense research over decades already, hasn´t it?
1368: There have been quite a lot of recent studies on DOM, if I am not mistaken?
1399: Accumulation or turnover? It seems unlikely that there will be significant depocenters, but rather intense turnover is very likely in sandy southern shallow-water areas and seems to be indicated by both observations and models.
1419 ff: This is certainly true, and not only in the Baltic Sea
1435: The Baltic Sea has “suffered“ from anoxia over the last 8000 years. An eminent researcher once remarked: If you don´t want the Baltic to be anoxic, well, build a dam!
1057: Who is G.H.? Not in author list?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-2021-33-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Karol Kulinski, 30 Nov 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://esd.copernicus.org/preprints/esd-2021-33/esd-2021-33-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Karol Kulinski, 30 Nov 2021