Articles | Volume 16, issue 5
https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-16-1865-2025
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“History in a bottle”: tipping dynamics in packaging systems – the case of how a bottle reuse system was established and then undone
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The paper presents an interesting case study for Lenton et al.’s positive social tipping point framework.
The manuscript is well structured in the beginning but in total, too lengthy. Especially part 4 and 5 could be shortened and lack clarity in several aspects. It is for example not entirely clear why reuse systems are better than recycling systems. What are the measures of a ‘good’ system? Economic efficiency, the carbon footprint or the return/recycling rate? A clearer definition would help the reader to understand the framework.
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The problem of a decreasing share of reusable glass bottles it not clear to me when the alternative is a plastic bottle recycling system. According to this study, e.g., recycled PET is more sustainable across a range of indicators compared to reusable glass: Stefanini et al., 2021. Plastic or glass: a new environmental assessment with a marine litter indicator for the comparison of pasteurized milk bottles.
Given that the advantage of reuse glass bottles over recycling PET is not clear, arguments in the discussion section might also not hold true. ‘Policymakers need to regulate to address the market failure’ regarding reuse system could become a misguided policy intervention if the assumption that reuse is better than recycling is not certain anymore.
Figure 3: Does ESD accept previously published figures?
Figure 5: What’s shown on the x-axis? And how is stability defined?
Figure 6 is confusing in several aspects:
Figure 8: similar to Fig. 6, the axes are missing. While it seems that the x-axis (time) is consistent between the two figures, the y axis is changing which is confusing to the reader. In addition, in Fig 6 the downward trend seems to be something desirable in terms of efficiency and sustainability (or whatever the authors intend to show here), whereas in Fig. 8, the downward trend seems to be something ‘negative’.
R6: How can network effects (R3 in Fig 6) and a lack of network effects both be a reinforcing feedback loop?
R7: Similarly, it is counterintuitive that the lack of something is a reinforcing feedback mechanism.
I recommend using one single variable for the y-axis in Fig 6 and 8, which corresponds to the x-axis in Fig 5.
As statistics of reuse glass bottle and recycling PET bottle use seem to be available, the figures would gain significant power if the shares were shown quantitatively in the figures to demonstrate tipping effects over time.
It does not make sense to describe B2 before R10 if R10 happens before B2 according to fig 8.
In the discussion part, the difference between 5.1 (enabling/destabilizing conditions) and 5.2 (feedback loops) is not clear. In general, the discussion section could be shortened, given the great length of the manuscript. Policy options in 5.3 are partly covered in 5.1 already and it is not clear why an additional section on business and policy options is needed.
Overall, the empirical example of glass bottle reuse systems in Germany is an interesting illustration of Lenton et al.’ s PTP framework but it requires considerable improvements, especially regarding the clarity of the figures.