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Time varying changes and uncertainties in the CMIP6 ocean carbon sink from global to regional to local scale
Neil C. Swart
Roberta C. Hamme
Abstract. As a major sink for anthropogenic carbon, the oceans slow the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and regulate climate change. Future changes in the ocean carbon sink, and its uncertainty at a global and regional scale, are key to understanding the future evolution of the climate. Here, we conduct a multimodel analysis of the changes and uncertainties in the historical and future ocean carbon sink using output data from the latest phase of the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project: CMIP6, and observations. We show that the ocean carbon sink is concentrated in highly active regions – 70 percent of the total sink occurs in less than 40 percent of the global ocean. High pattern correlations between the historical and projected future carbon sink indicate that future uptake will largely continue to occur in historically important regions. We conduct a detailed breakdown of the sources of uncertainty in the future carbon sink by region. Scenario uncertainty dominates at the global scale, followed by model uncertainty, and then internal variability. We demonstrate how the importance of internal variability increases moving to smaller spatial scales and go on to show how the breakdown between scenario, model, and internal variability changes between different ocean basins, governed by different processes. Moreover, we show that internal variability changes with time based on the scenario. As with the mean sink, we show that uncertainty in the future ocean carbon sink is also concentrated in the known regions of historical uptake. The resulting patterns in the signal-to-noise ratio have strong implications for observational detectability and time of emergence, which varies both in space and with scenario. Our results suggest that to detect human influence on the ocean carbon sink as early as possible and to efficiently reduce uncertainty in future carbon uptake, modeling and observational efforts should be focused in the known regions of high historical uptake, including the Northwest Atlantic and the Southern Ocean.
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RC1: 'Comment on esd-2022-19', Anonymous Referee #1, 27 Jun 2022
The authors investigate the future ocean carbon sink in CMIP6 models under several SSP scenarios. They quantify the uncertainty in the future sink as a function of model, internal and scenario uncertainty for the global and regional scales. They calculate time of emergence for the forced signal to emerge from internal variability. They find that the future ocean carbon sink is most uncertain in regions of currently highest flux.
The methods used are solid and, with a few minor exceptions, adequately explained. Reasonable assumptions are made. The Supplementary provides useful additional information.
The paper is a contribution to the literature on the CMIP6 models. Most of the calculations done here have been done before for CMIP5 models in several papers, so this is a useful update. It is appropriate for ESD readership. Conclusions are justified by the analysis.
Major Comments
On the whole, the paper lacks depth and clarity in the discussion of mechanisms on the ocean carbon sink and how it should evolve in the future. The references to the literature are also somewhat sparse. I encourage the authors to review some more of the literature and to add more mechanistic discussion and connection to previous studies. To do so will make the paper a more useful contribution. Possibilities include Crisp et al 2022 in Reviews of Geophysics, Ridge and McKinley 2021 in Biogeosciences, Hauck et al. 2020 in Frontiers, McKinley et al. 2020 in AGU Advances, Bushinsky et al 2019 in GBC, Schwinger and Tjiputra 2018 in GRL.
I also recommend changing away from the ”hotspots” terminology. For the carbon sink, this term is often used for very small regions, such as western boundary current mode water formation regions. To use this for all of the Southern Ocean, North Atlantic, etc. is also just not a very good choice of words also since these are large, basin scale regions not “spots”.
Minor
Pg 2, line 46. Bushinsky et al. 2019 should be added to this list
Pg 3, line 84. ESMs are based in fundamental equation such a Navier Stokes. Yes, there are many details that differ, but there is also a lot of basis in physics! This statement suggests that models are much more of a potpourri than they actually are. Please add some more discussion to more accurately represent ESMs.
Pg 8, line 95. Need to clarify that SOM-FFN is just one realization, not the forced signal. Of course, it is all that we have, so the comparison to the multimodel mean is reasonable. The authors just need to make sure that the text here helps the reader to understand that observations are not the forced component.
pg 8 line 7-8, the “hotspots” terminology is too vague, making it hard for the reader to follow.
Table 1. Note in caption that internal is from CanESM only
Both Tables are difficult to read. Labels in column 2 are too small. The distinction between the scenarios is not clear enough.
Figure 2. correct spelling in words in 2b
pg 11, line 65-66, “test from Santer et al. (2018)” should be defined in methods
pg 11, line 69. Strike “in the models” and replace with “in CanESM”
pg 12, line 77. Figure 2 (and also Figure 4) makes it evident that “model uncertainty” is much the mean spread across the models. Please mention this connection explicitly.
Pg 17, line 80-83. This section is poorly worded. Please rephrase to avoid “are mostly within hotspots but are not confined to them and do not include all of them”.. and to be more specific about the regions to which you refer.
Pg 17, line 87-93. This is just the mean sink, i.e. where low anthropogenic carbon is being brought to the surface. These regions continue to be ventilated from the deep and this is why the sink persists. There is no need to invoke teleconnections.
Pg 17, Line 95-96. This description of the scenarios is not sufficiently precise. Scenarios are designed primarily to represent potential futures that socio-economic modeling indicates have potential to be realized. Within this range, there is a selection made of a representative pathways that are not too similar. But this is not the same as to say that they are “designed to deviate”. See Riahi et al. 2017 http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloenvcha.2016.05.009
pg 18 line 01-03. please discuss what are these processes.
pg 19, line 26 “fixed inactive regions”? please clarify. These regions are not “fixed” or “inactive”
pg 20, line 41-51. The size of the forced trend is critical in the time of emergence. The scenarios with smaller forced trend emerge later. Please include this in the discussion
Pg 20, line 53 “mostly in a few hotspot regions” suggests a few small spots when in fact the ocean carbon sink is diffuse and occurring really everywhere (see figure 1c). See Major Comment.
Pg 21, line 72. Strike “basins”, replace with “regions”
Supplementary
Below Eqn S4. “Section S2”, instead of “Appendix B”
Page numbers are needed in the Supplementary
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-2022-19-RC1 - AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Parsa Gooya, 03 Sep 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on esd-2022-19', Anonymous Referee #2, 06 Jul 2022
The authors investigate the sources of uncertainties in projections of air-sea CO2 fluxes in CMIP6 ESMs and also provide estimates on the time of emergence of the forced signal.
I appreciate the time and effort that the authors put into developing this manuscript. However, I cannot recommend the paper in its present form. Even though I appreciate that the authors tackle an important question, namely the relative role of scenario uncertainty, model uncertainty and internal variability, it remained unclear to me what new insights are gained here in how the future ocean carbon sink evolves. As it stands, it is mostly an update of previous literature and analysis, but this time with CMIP6 models. In addition, I also have some concerns in how internal variability is estimated. See all my comments below.
Major comments:
Embedding results into existing literature
The detailed breakdown of uncertainty in the scenario uncertainty, model uncertainty and internal variability in air-sea CO2 flux projections has been done by many others (e.g., (Lovenduski et al., 2016; Schlunegger et al., 2019, 2020)). Here the authors use CMIP6 models instead of CMIP5 models as used in those previous analyses, but the main results are basically the same as for the CMIP5 models: scenario uncertainty dominates at the global scale, followed by model uncertainty and then internal variability; time of emergence is early in high latitudes and in the tropics. If the authors want to publish this paper, the MS needs to include a thorough discussion on how these new CMIP6 results differ from what we already know from CMIP5. Or how it supports those previous findings. For example, the three last paragraphs in the discussion do not contain any single reference. However as mentioned above, many studies already exist who tackle similar questions. I am fine if the purpose of the paper is to give an update with CMIP6 models, but if so, this needs to be clearly stated upfront.
The authors also highlight in the abstract that the ocean carbon sink is concentrated in highly active regions. That has been shown by many studies already (e.g. (Sarmiento et al., 1998)). Again, what is the novelty here?
Calculating internal variability
The authors use one single ESM (i.e., CanESM5) initial condition large ensemble to estimate the internal variability in the air-sea CO2 flux. Whereas I see the benefit of using a large ensemble to estimate internal variability, as for example internal variability may be sensitive to changes in climate change and therefore changes with time, I suspect that the current results (fractional uncertainty and time of emergence) are heavily biased towards the CanESM5 model and how it represents internal variability. I suspect that different CMIP6 models simulate different magnitude of internal variabilities in air-sea CO2 fluxes. Therefore, the fractional uncertainty as well as the time of emergence might be different when using a different model. Therefore, it may make more sense to use piControl simulations from a variety of CMIP6 models (for example the same as used to estimate model uncertainty; if CMIP6 SMILEs are not available) to estimate internal variability and how uncertainties in the internal variability estimates impact the time of emergence and the uncertainty breakdown.
Accounting for drift in air-sea CO2 fluxes in CMIP6 ESMs
Did you account for potential drifts in air-sea CO2 fluxes in the piControl simulations of the CMIP6 models? To estimate model uncertainty one should use the difference between the historical-scenario simulation and the piControl simulation (long-term trend). This would also allow to include the CNRM-ESM2-1 model as this model has a relatively large preindustrial outgassing of about -0.75 Pg C/yr, which is the reason why the ‘present-day’ CO2 flux is below all other models as shown in the Supplementary Figure S1. When correcting for this offset the model is close to all other models.
Accuracy of text
There are many places in the manuscript where the text is not accurate, and the reader might have difficulties to understand the details. For example, on page 11 l66, you state that ‘the trend sin ocean carbon sink anomalies are statistically consistent between models and obs-based products based on tests from Santer et al. 2018. What test is this? The method has not been introduced in the method section.
Minor comments (FYI: the line numbers are confusing in the MS)
Introduction:
L36-47: This paragraph mixes the description of the anthropogenic flux pattern with the total CO2 flux pattern. This is rather confusing.
L36: I guess there are many older papers that could be cited here (e.g. Takahashi or Sarmiento)
L38: Maybe cite here (Frölicher et al., 2015)
l.52: Laufkötter et al. (2015) does not fit here as they do not look at air-sea CO2 fluxes. Maybe include (Terhaar et al., 2021) instead.
L54-59: Schlunegger et al. (2020) also investigated the sources of uncertainties in air-sea CO2 fluxes. This study should be mentioned here as well.
L69: ‘along with others’: can you elaborate a bit what other processes you have in mind here? What about small-scale processes such as eddies, etc.?
l 71: ‘beyond short timescales’: Please backup this claim with a reference
l84: not only the physical world but also the biogeochemistry for example.
L98-99: Can you update these number with CMIP6 estimates?
L99-00 (page 4): The introduction lacks a paragraph on earlier results. For example, Lovenduski et al. (2016), McKinley et al. (2016), and Schlunegger et al. (2020) have already tackled similar questions using CMIP5-type models and SMILEs. This needs to be stated upfront here.
Data and Methods:
L07-15: Did you use CO2 concentration driven simulations or CO2 emission driven simulations. I guess the former, but please clarify.
L28-45: As explained above, I am not convinced to use one single model to estimate internal variability given that the models simulate a large spread in the magnitude of internal variability.
L54: I am a bit confused here. Do you correct here each model with the internal variability from the CanESM5? But what if the different models have a different internal variability than the CanESM5?
L77: You assume that internal variability is well represented by CanESM5. But this might not be true.
Results
L20: Maybe state in the first sentence of the Figure caption what quantity Figure 1 shows.
Figure 2b: uncertainty is wrongly written in the Figure – Typo.
Figure 2b: y axis: Fraction of what? Please clarify.
L66-68: How did you test this? How did you conclude that SOM-FFN shows a larger multidecadal variability? This is unclear?
L77-78: Isn’t that obvious, given that scenario uncertainty is zero over the historical period?
L92-93: Schlunegger et al. (2020) shows it for many more regions. See their Figure 9.
L77-78: ‘highly significant finding’. This has been shown already in (Wang et al., 2016). They show that models that simulate a small ocean anthropogenic carbon uptake over the last decades also simulate a small uptake over the 21st century.
L89-91: The large uncertainty in simulated uptake of Cant in the Southern Ocean simulated by ESMs has already been highlighted in previous studies (e.g. Frölicher et al. 2015)
L41: Which previous studies? Please clarify.
Discussions:
L63-64: Where is this shown.?There is no formal analysis on that in the paper.
L69-97: All three paragraphs lack of any reference, even though many studies have investigated similar questions in the past. This needs to be changed.
References
Frölicher, T. L., Sarmiento, J. L., Paynter, D. J., Dunne, J. P., Krasting, J. P., & Winton, M. (2015). Dominance of the Southern Ocean in anthropogenic carbon and heat uptake in CMIP5 models. Journal of Climate, 28(2), 862–886. https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI-D-14-00117.1
Lovenduski, N. S., McKinley, G. A., Fay, A. R., Lindsay, K., & Long, M. C. (2016). Partitioning uncertainty in ocean carbon uptake projections: Internal variability, emission scenario, and model structure. Global Biogeochemical Cycles, 30(9). https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GB005426
Sarmiento, J. L., Hughes, T. M. C., Stouffer, R. J., & Manabe, S. (1998). Simulated response of the ocean carbon cycle to anthropogenic climate warming. Nature, 393(6682), 245–249. https://doi.org/10.1038/30455
Schlunegger, S., Rodgers, K. B., Sarmiento, J. L., Frölicher, T. L., Dunne, J. P., Ishii, M., & Slater, R. (2019). Emergence of anthropogenic signals in the ocean carbon cycle. Nature Climate Change, 9(9), 719–725. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-019-0553-2
Schlunegger, S., Rodgers, K. B., Sarmiento, J. L., Ilyina, T., Dunne, J. P., Takano, Y., Christian, J. R., Long, M. C., Frölicher, T. L., Slater, R., & Lehner, F. (2020). Time of Emergence and Large Ensemble Intercomparison for Ocean Biogeochemical Trends. Global Biogeochemical Cycles, 34(8), e2019GB006453. https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.1029/2019GB006453
Terhaar, J., Frölicher, T. L., & Joos, F. (2021). Southern Ocean anthropogenic carbon sink constrained by sea surface salinity. Science Advances, 7(18), eabd5964. https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.abd5964
Wang, L., Huang, J., Luo, Y., & Zhao, Z. (2016). Narrowing the spread in CMIP5 model projections of air-sea CO2 fluxes. Scientific Reports, 6(1), 37548. https://doi.org/10.1038/srep37548
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RC1: 'Comment on esd-2022-19', Anonymous Referee #1, 27 Jun 2022
The authors investigate the future ocean carbon sink in CMIP6 models under several SSP scenarios. They quantify the uncertainty in the future sink as a function of model, internal and scenario uncertainty for the global and regional scales. They calculate time of emergence for the forced signal to emerge from internal variability. They find that the future ocean carbon sink is most uncertain in regions of currently highest flux.
The methods used are solid and, with a few minor exceptions, adequately explained. Reasonable assumptions are made. The Supplementary provides useful additional information.
The paper is a contribution to the literature on the CMIP6 models. Most of the calculations done here have been done before for CMIP5 models in several papers, so this is a useful update. It is appropriate for ESD readership. Conclusions are justified by the analysis.
Major Comments
On the whole, the paper lacks depth and clarity in the discussion of mechanisms on the ocean carbon sink and how it should evolve in the future. The references to the literature are also somewhat sparse. I encourage the authors to review some more of the literature and to add more mechanistic discussion and connection to previous studies. To do so will make the paper a more useful contribution. Possibilities include Crisp et al 2022 in Reviews of Geophysics, Ridge and McKinley 2021 in Biogeosciences, Hauck et al. 2020 in Frontiers, McKinley et al. 2020 in AGU Advances, Bushinsky et al 2019 in GBC, Schwinger and Tjiputra 2018 in GRL.
I also recommend changing away from the ”hotspots” terminology. For the carbon sink, this term is often used for very small regions, such as western boundary current mode water formation regions. To use this for all of the Southern Ocean, North Atlantic, etc. is also just not a very good choice of words also since these are large, basin scale regions not “spots”.
Minor
Pg 2, line 46. Bushinsky et al. 2019 should be added to this list
Pg 3, line 84. ESMs are based in fundamental equation such a Navier Stokes. Yes, there are many details that differ, but there is also a lot of basis in physics! This statement suggests that models are much more of a potpourri than they actually are. Please add some more discussion to more accurately represent ESMs.
Pg 8, line 95. Need to clarify that SOM-FFN is just one realization, not the forced signal. Of course, it is all that we have, so the comparison to the multimodel mean is reasonable. The authors just need to make sure that the text here helps the reader to understand that observations are not the forced component.
pg 8 line 7-8, the “hotspots” terminology is too vague, making it hard for the reader to follow.
Table 1. Note in caption that internal is from CanESM only
Both Tables are difficult to read. Labels in column 2 are too small. The distinction between the scenarios is not clear enough.
Figure 2. correct spelling in words in 2b
pg 11, line 65-66, “test from Santer et al. (2018)” should be defined in methods
pg 11, line 69. Strike “in the models” and replace with “in CanESM”
pg 12, line 77. Figure 2 (and also Figure 4) makes it evident that “model uncertainty” is much the mean spread across the models. Please mention this connection explicitly.
Pg 17, line 80-83. This section is poorly worded. Please rephrase to avoid “are mostly within hotspots but are not confined to them and do not include all of them”.. and to be more specific about the regions to which you refer.
Pg 17, line 87-93. This is just the mean sink, i.e. where low anthropogenic carbon is being brought to the surface. These regions continue to be ventilated from the deep and this is why the sink persists. There is no need to invoke teleconnections.
Pg 17, Line 95-96. This description of the scenarios is not sufficiently precise. Scenarios are designed primarily to represent potential futures that socio-economic modeling indicates have potential to be realized. Within this range, there is a selection made of a representative pathways that are not too similar. But this is not the same as to say that they are “designed to deviate”. See Riahi et al. 2017 http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloenvcha.2016.05.009
pg 18 line 01-03. please discuss what are these processes.
pg 19, line 26 “fixed inactive regions”? please clarify. These regions are not “fixed” or “inactive”
pg 20, line 41-51. The size of the forced trend is critical in the time of emergence. The scenarios with smaller forced trend emerge later. Please include this in the discussion
Pg 20, line 53 “mostly in a few hotspot regions” suggests a few small spots when in fact the ocean carbon sink is diffuse and occurring really everywhere (see figure 1c). See Major Comment.
Pg 21, line 72. Strike “basins”, replace with “regions”
Supplementary
Below Eqn S4. “Section S2”, instead of “Appendix B”
Page numbers are needed in the Supplementary
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/esd-2022-19-RC1 - AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Parsa Gooya, 03 Sep 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on esd-2022-19', Anonymous Referee #2, 06 Jul 2022
The authors investigate the sources of uncertainties in projections of air-sea CO2 fluxes in CMIP6 ESMs and also provide estimates on the time of emergence of the forced signal.
I appreciate the time and effort that the authors put into developing this manuscript. However, I cannot recommend the paper in its present form. Even though I appreciate that the authors tackle an important question, namely the relative role of scenario uncertainty, model uncertainty and internal variability, it remained unclear to me what new insights are gained here in how the future ocean carbon sink evolves. As it stands, it is mostly an update of previous literature and analysis, but this time with CMIP6 models. In addition, I also have some concerns in how internal variability is estimated. See all my comments below.
Major comments:
Embedding results into existing literature
The detailed breakdown of uncertainty in the scenario uncertainty, model uncertainty and internal variability in air-sea CO2 flux projections has been done by many others (e.g., (Lovenduski et al., 2016; Schlunegger et al., 2019, 2020)). Here the authors use CMIP6 models instead of CMIP5 models as used in those previous analyses, but the main results are basically the same as for the CMIP5 models: scenario uncertainty dominates at the global scale, followed by model uncertainty and then internal variability; time of emergence is early in high latitudes and in the tropics. If the authors want to publish this paper, the MS needs to include a thorough discussion on how these new CMIP6 results differ from what we already know from CMIP5. Or how it supports those previous findings. For example, the three last paragraphs in the discussion do not contain any single reference. However as mentioned above, many studies already exist who tackle similar questions. I am fine if the purpose of the paper is to give an update with CMIP6 models, but if so, this needs to be clearly stated upfront.
The authors also highlight in the abstract that the ocean carbon sink is concentrated in highly active regions. That has been shown by many studies already (e.g. (Sarmiento et al., 1998)). Again, what is the novelty here?
Calculating internal variability
The authors use one single ESM (i.e., CanESM5) initial condition large ensemble to estimate the internal variability in the air-sea CO2 flux. Whereas I see the benefit of using a large ensemble to estimate internal variability, as for example internal variability may be sensitive to changes in climate change and therefore changes with time, I suspect that the current results (fractional uncertainty and time of emergence) are heavily biased towards the CanESM5 model and how it represents internal variability. I suspect that different CMIP6 models simulate different magnitude of internal variabilities in air-sea CO2 fluxes. Therefore, the fractional uncertainty as well as the time of emergence might be different when using a different model. Therefore, it may make more sense to use piControl simulations from a variety of CMIP6 models (for example the same as used to estimate model uncertainty; if CMIP6 SMILEs are not available) to estimate internal variability and how uncertainties in the internal variability estimates impact the time of emergence and the uncertainty breakdown.
Accounting for drift in air-sea CO2 fluxes in CMIP6 ESMs
Did you account for potential drifts in air-sea CO2 fluxes in the piControl simulations of the CMIP6 models? To estimate model uncertainty one should use the difference between the historical-scenario simulation and the piControl simulation (long-term trend). This would also allow to include the CNRM-ESM2-1 model as this model has a relatively large preindustrial outgassing of about -0.75 Pg C/yr, which is the reason why the ‘present-day’ CO2 flux is below all other models as shown in the Supplementary Figure S1. When correcting for this offset the model is close to all other models.
Accuracy of text
There are many places in the manuscript where the text is not accurate, and the reader might have difficulties to understand the details. For example, on page 11 l66, you state that ‘the trend sin ocean carbon sink anomalies are statistically consistent between models and obs-based products based on tests from Santer et al. 2018. What test is this? The method has not been introduced in the method section.
Minor comments (FYI: the line numbers are confusing in the MS)
Introduction:
L36-47: This paragraph mixes the description of the anthropogenic flux pattern with the total CO2 flux pattern. This is rather confusing.
L36: I guess there are many older papers that could be cited here (e.g. Takahashi or Sarmiento)
L38: Maybe cite here (Frölicher et al., 2015)
l.52: Laufkötter et al. (2015) does not fit here as they do not look at air-sea CO2 fluxes. Maybe include (Terhaar et al., 2021) instead.
L54-59: Schlunegger et al. (2020) also investigated the sources of uncertainties in air-sea CO2 fluxes. This study should be mentioned here as well.
L69: ‘along with others’: can you elaborate a bit what other processes you have in mind here? What about small-scale processes such as eddies, etc.?
l 71: ‘beyond short timescales’: Please backup this claim with a reference
l84: not only the physical world but also the biogeochemistry for example.
L98-99: Can you update these number with CMIP6 estimates?
L99-00 (page 4): The introduction lacks a paragraph on earlier results. For example, Lovenduski et al. (2016), McKinley et al. (2016), and Schlunegger et al. (2020) have already tackled similar questions using CMIP5-type models and SMILEs. This needs to be stated upfront here.
Data and Methods:
L07-15: Did you use CO2 concentration driven simulations or CO2 emission driven simulations. I guess the former, but please clarify.
L28-45: As explained above, I am not convinced to use one single model to estimate internal variability given that the models simulate a large spread in the magnitude of internal variability.
L54: I am a bit confused here. Do you correct here each model with the internal variability from the CanESM5? But what if the different models have a different internal variability than the CanESM5?
L77: You assume that internal variability is well represented by CanESM5. But this might not be true.
Results
L20: Maybe state in the first sentence of the Figure caption what quantity Figure 1 shows.
Figure 2b: uncertainty is wrongly written in the Figure – Typo.
Figure 2b: y axis: Fraction of what? Please clarify.
L66-68: How did you test this? How did you conclude that SOM-FFN shows a larger multidecadal variability? This is unclear?
L77-78: Isn’t that obvious, given that scenario uncertainty is zero over the historical period?
L92-93: Schlunegger et al. (2020) shows it for many more regions. See their Figure 9.
L77-78: ‘highly significant finding’. This has been shown already in (Wang et al., 2016). They show that models that simulate a small ocean anthropogenic carbon uptake over the last decades also simulate a small uptake over the 21st century.
L89-91: The large uncertainty in simulated uptake of Cant in the Southern Ocean simulated by ESMs has already been highlighted in previous studies (e.g. Frölicher et al. 2015)
L41: Which previous studies? Please clarify.
Discussions:
L63-64: Where is this shown.?There is no formal analysis on that in the paper.
L69-97: All three paragraphs lack of any reference, even though many studies have investigated similar questions in the past. This needs to be changed.
References
Frölicher, T. L., Sarmiento, J. L., Paynter, D. J., Dunne, J. P., Krasting, J. P., & Winton, M. (2015). Dominance of the Southern Ocean in anthropogenic carbon and heat uptake in CMIP5 models. Journal of Climate, 28(2), 862–886. https://doi.org/10.1175/JCLI-D-14-00117.1
Lovenduski, N. S., McKinley, G. A., Fay, A. R., Lindsay, K., & Long, M. C. (2016). Partitioning uncertainty in ocean carbon uptake projections: Internal variability, emission scenario, and model structure. Global Biogeochemical Cycles, 30(9). https://doi.org/10.1002/2016GB005426
Sarmiento, J. L., Hughes, T. M. C., Stouffer, R. J., & Manabe, S. (1998). Simulated response of the ocean carbon cycle to anthropogenic climate warming. Nature, 393(6682), 245–249. https://doi.org/10.1038/30455
Schlunegger, S., Rodgers, K. B., Sarmiento, J. L., Frölicher, T. L., Dunne, J. P., Ishii, M., & Slater, R. (2019). Emergence of anthropogenic signals in the ocean carbon cycle. Nature Climate Change, 9(9), 719–725. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41558-019-0553-2
Schlunegger, S., Rodgers, K. B., Sarmiento, J. L., Ilyina, T., Dunne, J. P., Takano, Y., Christian, J. R., Long, M. C., Frölicher, T. L., Slater, R., & Lehner, F. (2020). Time of Emergence and Large Ensemble Intercomparison for Ocean Biogeochemical Trends. Global Biogeochemical Cycles, 34(8), e2019GB006453. https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.1029/2019GB006453
Terhaar, J., Frölicher, T. L., & Joos, F. (2021). Southern Ocean anthropogenic carbon sink constrained by sea surface salinity. Science Advances, 7(18), eabd5964. https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.abd5964
Wang, L., Huang, J., Luo, Y., & Zhao, Z. (2016). Narrowing the spread in CMIP5 model projections of air-sea CO2 fluxes. Scientific Reports, 6(1), 37548. https://doi.org/10.1038/srep37548
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